Forum Archive : Rulings

Crawford game double

From:   Řystein Johansen
Date:   8 June 2004
Subject:   Crawford rule question
Forum:   GammOnLine

This actually happend on the club tournament yseterday:

Player A leads 6-2 Crawford against Player B. Player B forgets that it is
the Crawford game and doubles. Player A also forgets that it is the
Crawford game and drops! They set up the initial position again, and start
a new game. Then the mistake comes clear to them. (Of course they don't
remember the position.)  What now?

More hypotetical: What if a watcher where watching the game, and saw that
player B doubled? What should he do? Should he keep his big mouth shut, or
should he point out the mistake and interfere with the match?

BTW: It's clear that it wasn't player B's intention to cheat. He is just
an inexperienced player that forgot.


Ian Shaw  writes:

Once you've started a new game, I think the score is deemed to be checked
and agreed by both players. I think you have to carry on at 6-3 to A. B
might offer to replay at 6-2 but I don't think the TD can enforce that.

I don't think a spectator can interfere directly in the cube actions.

Řystein Johansen  writes:

What about the next game then? Should that be played with the Crawford
rule? Or is the Crawford game considered over, and player B may double at
the first opportunity?

Gregg Cattanach  writes:

I would think the Crawford game has expired at this point. The real
problem was that both players terminated the game and so it couldn't be
completed. I can't see any other solution that to continue the match from
the 6-3 score.

Neil Kazaross  writes:

I'm unsure what the specific rule is for this situation, but a long time
director told me 20 years ago when something like this was discussed, that
"the cube is out of play in the Crawford game, period!" He also stressed
that it was the responsibility of both players not to double and that, if
one did cube, any ruling(s) would likely be made against him after the

Based on this discussion and my personal feelings that the one who cubes
here is the one who initiates a possible problem and is perhaps taking
advantage of his opponent, I would rule the game null and void and play
would continue at crawford from 6-2.

TarHeelFan  writes:

If it had come up, I probably would have let the match continue from 6-3,
but wouldn't have liked it and would have said something to the players. I
like your ruling, Neil, especially if the error is caught before the next
game starts. I'm not sure what the precedent might be, though.

Sam Pottle  writes:

I don't think the possibility of the leader angling when doubled at
Crawford is a big defect in the rules.

This issue was discussed quite a bit at the Vegas tournament last month.
One suggestion went like this: if the trailer doubles at Crawford, and the
leader calls him on it, then the double is canceled, the game continues,
and the trailer is not allowed to double in the following game. If the
leader acts on the cube, the action stands. This prevents angling by the
trailer, except at 2-away Crawford.
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