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Misplaced cube

From:   Ned Cross
Date:   4 March 2004
Subject:   What if just the cube is out of place?
Forum:   GammOnLine

Just last night in our local club tourney, I was ahead in a game and
started thinking about the cube, when I noticed a 2-cube was still sitting
on my side of the board from the previous game.

As the trailer in the 7 pt match at that point, I certainly had an
advantage with cube ownership and the ability to send it over on 4.

I brought it to my opponent's attention and we agreed the cube should be
centered, but following the other discussion in this thread, would I have
been right to keep the 2-cube since the game had gone more than 5 turns?

Daniel Murphy  writes:

Since you and your opponent agree that there had never been a double in
this game, the cube should be replaced in the middle.

Placement of the doubling cube in the wrong place or the wrong level is not
an "error in setup" which cannot be corrected after five rolls, or an
"illegal play" that cannot be corrected after one roll. There is another
rule that applies. In the US it is US Rule 5.2.

   5.2 CUBE SETUP. It is the responsibility of both players to see that the
   doubling cube begins each game centered with the "64" side face up. In
   the event of a dispute, the current position and level of the cube will
   strongly influence Director's ruling. Exception: the cube may be removed
   during the Crawford game (see Rule 5.5)."

A published interpretation of the similar Danish Rule is on point:

   Rule Paragraph: 4.4.1 It is both players' responsibility that the
   doubling cube is centered with the "1" or "64" side face up at the start
   of each game.

   Interpretation: If the doubling cube is not replaced in the middle after
   a completed game, and a new game is begun, the doubling cube shall be
   placed in the middle as soon as the players become aware of the error.
   Under Rule 4.4.1 it is both players' responsibility that the doubling
   cube is centered at the beginning of each game; therefore neither player
   shall take advantage of an error in placing the cube. As soon as one
   player becomes aware of the mistaken placing, he shall make his opponent
   aware of the error, after which the error shall be corrected.

Translation is mine and rough, but close enough.
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