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 Compensating for byes

 From: Hank Youngerman Address: hankyoungerman@home.com Date: 2 December 1998 Subject: Byes in tournaments Forum: rec.games.backgammon Google: 36649ec6.94734699@news

I played in my first F2F tournament in a while a few weeks back.  Nine
players entered the non-expert division, meaning that two players did
not get a first-round bye and seven did.

I was wondering if tournaments have ever tried to equalize the effect
of byes by handicapping later matches.  For example, suppose 12
players enter, playing 11-point matches.  I don't have my match equity
table handy (or memorized) but it seems that leading 3-0 to 11 would
be about 67% match equity, roughly.  It would seem to be fair, then,
that 8 players would play the first round, and each winner would start
the second-round match with a 3-0 lead. This would give each of the 12
players a 1/3 chance of reaching the third round.

Has anyone ever done this in practice?

 Carlo Melzi  writes: Just a few time ago I started to study something similar, because one of my friend gave me the idea. Unfortunately, some problems were just too big: 1) The system 67%-33% works only if the total numbers of players is 12 or 24, because there is the same number of byes and pre-turns. In all the other situations, a player who had to play a pre-turn would clearly prefer to play a player who had a bye in the second round, in order to start with an advantage (67% vs. 50%). Thus, we should re-arrange third, fourth (and so on) rounds to give the same probability of winning the tournament to all the players AFTER the draw. I studied the "10-players" tournament and the math should be this: A,B,C,D play a pre-turn. The winners (let's say A and C) play then E and F having a score advantage that gives them 67% in the match. G,H,I,L play normally their round. In the semifinals, the winners of A-E and C-F should start with a 60% advantage versus (let's say) G and I. This way every player would have a 10% chance to win the tournament AFTER the draw. A,B,C,D: 50*67*60*50=10 E,F: 33*60*50=10 G,H,I,L: 50*40*50=10 As you can see, this is rather complicate (and it's even more with more players). 2) It's not always so easy to give precisely 66.67% in a match (in a 7pts tournament, using Neil's Numbers, starting from 2-0 gives 63% and 3-0 gives 69.5%; 0 - -3 gives 66%.......but it's no more a 7pts tournament!!! :-) )

 Steen Ladelund  writes: In Aarhus, Denmark where I live, we have a tournament every two weeks where we auction the byes. I think this is a beutifull, simple and fair way of dealing with byes in knock-out designs involving entry fees. I wonder if its used elsewhere? -- Steen Ladelund * Dep. of Theor. Statistics, office H2.14 * University of Århus. tlf: (+45) 8942 3499 * Ny Munkegade, bygn. 530 E-mail: ladelund@imf.au.dk * 8000 Århus, Denmark.

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