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Tournament formats From:   MikeMadMonk Address:   MikeMadMonk@backpacker-backgammon.com Date:   29 May 2003 Subject:   Tournament formats Forum:   rec.games.backgammon Google:   67d3710c.0305290002.4d0655d0@posting.google.com Could somebody please tell me or point me in the direction of articles that explain exactly and fully how the following formats work and should be run: A Repechage format A Double Knockout format A Progressive Consolation format MikeMadMonk http://www.backpacker-backgammon.com Michael Crane  writes: This takes me back to my fencing days when I took fullest advantage of this format :-) Repechage (REP-eh-shazh) - A tournament format that allows fencers who lose a direct elimination bout to contine through a table of other losers in order to get back into the winner's bracket. (From the French for "This is your last chance, don't blow it!") This site goes into more detail: http://www.rtpnet.org/ncusfa/repechage_explained.html Michael Nardy Pillards  writes: Double Elimination: You are not out of the tournament, until you lost twice. As long as you win, you stay in the upper bracket (just a single elimination bracket that is). If you keep on winning, you will finish to play the final of the tournament. After your first lost, you go 'down' to the lower bracket (where all first losers meet). The round you lost your match in upper bracket will decide in what round you 'drop' into the lower bracket. To keep it easy: the more matches you win in upper bracket, the more advanced you drop into the lower bracket when you lose your first match there. (When you lose a second match, you are out of the tournament.) The final of the Double Elimination is played between the winner of the upper bracket (until now, this person did not lose yet) and the winner of the lower bracket (lost one match, but won the others). When the winner of the upper bracket wins that final match, he/she is the winner of the tournament. _But_ when the winner of the upper bracket loses that final match, there is a rematch to decide who finally will win the tournament (remember: you are not out of the tournament, until you lose twice). (Progressive) consolation: The concept is a bit like DE (Double Elimination). But the brackets (upper or 'main' and lower or 'consolation') are _seperated_. As long as you win, you stay in the main bracket. After your first loss, you drop to the consolation bracket (and can't win the main event anymore). After your second loss, you are out of the tournament (unless.... third chance bracket). The brackets are seperated. Once you drop to consolation, you can not go back to the main bracket anymore (that is reserved for the overall winner). But you can win the consolation. Nardy Adam Stocks  writes: The term 'progressive' refers to the fact that the point at which you drop out of the Main event determines the point at which you enter the Consolation event, as you described in the DE case. Likewise, in a Non-Progressive Consolation event, all Main event losers (except the players who won prize money, usually) enter the Consolation in it's first round. Adam Vivek Mittal  writes: For a double knockout format, have a look at the document at http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/tournament_brackets.htm Halfway down the page, it explains double elimination and gives examples of brackets for upto 16 players. The page at http://www.crowsdarts.com/brackets/tourn.html has downloadable DE brackets for upto 32 players. Cheers, Vivek   Did you find the information in this article useful?           Do you have any comments you'd like to add?

 

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