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Gentleman's previlege From:   Daniel Address:   cantseetheforest@cutdownthetrees.com Date:   14 September 2005 Subject:   Re: Ruling question Forum:   GammOnLine Recall the scene from one of the James Bond films (Casino Royale?) where our hero, standing on "gentleman's privilege" or some such, asked to use his opponent's (fixed) dice before rolling his game-winning double six. For this scene to make any sense, we must infer that Bond and his opponent agreed that it is proper for a gentleman playing high stakes backgammon to request a mix or exchange of dice during a game, and proper for his gentleman opponent to acquiesce. Whether any such convention exists or ever existed in high stakes games between gentlemen, I don't know. But I've never known a tournament player to request a mix of dice during a game. Roland Scheicher  writes: 1) Oswald Jacoby and John Crawford write in "The Backgammon Book" (chapter 18) that you may mix the dice before each single game and you may even agree upon mixing the dice DURING a game in progress. Mixing the dice means: you put all four dice into the cup, shake it and let them roll out, your opponent chooses a die, then you choose a die, your opponent chooses his second die and the last die goes to you. Changing the dice as Mr Bond does it is not part of any rules I know. Nevertheless if I were sure that my opponent uses loaded dice I should act as Mr Bond does. May he call the club director and protest against my changing the dice and let me show the director the loaded dice! In contrast to Jacoby and Crawford the tournament rules of the Deutscher Backgammon-Bund state that: Rule # 18. [...] Players may mix the dice before each single game. If a game has begun, a change is no longer permitted. Each player may call for new dice after the completion of a game. The tournament director has the right to exchange the dice at any time during a game without previous announcement. 2) The film this scene is taken from is "Octopussy"   Did you find the information in this article useful?           Do you have any comments you'd like to add?

 

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