Chouettes

 Cube proxy

 From: Ilia Guzei Date: 13 June 2003 Subject: Local chouette rule question Forum: GammOnLine

```In Madison we play consulting chouette but consulting begins only after
a cube has been turned.

Situation: During a chouette player A of the team goes to the bar and
leaves player B of the team in charge of his cube. Captain and Box are
going at it and at some point player B doubles the Box as himself and
player A by giving the Box two 2-cubes. The Box drops B's cube but takes
A's cube since he thinks it's a borderline take/pass and he wants to
exclude player B from future discussions.

Question: Since player B is in charge of player A's cube that was taken,
can B still consult? Or does he remain there just to make a cube
decision (until player A returns to the table anyway) when and if the
Box redoubles player A?

Ilia
```

 JP White  writes: ```Player B is only in charge of Player A's cube. Since Player B is 'out of the game' he cannot comment or consult. But if the box recubes A and A still isn't around B can act as the proxy and make the cube decision for him (however in this situation if I were B I'd yell for A to come back quick). ```

 Mary Hickey  writes: ```Add Ohio to the chouette venues where a person acting as a cube proxy cannot consult. If it were otherwise, consider the unforeseen consequences that could arise, and you'll see what a can of worms it might become if they could! It's also considered perfectly OK for the Box to drop the present player and take the absent one (the situation you describe) in order to prevent whoever else is in the game from having someone to consult with. If the cube gets large, the proxy usually makes some attempt to locate the absent player, whether or not the proxy is still in the game. It's also OK in most of our chouettes for the proxy to beaver his own cube but just take for the absent player (though not the reverse). This means we have a subtle difference in what the leaving player might say as he appoints the proxy: "Handle my cube" doesn't mean exactly the same thing as "I do what you do." ```

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### Chouettes

Automatic doubles with carryover  (Alexander Zamanian, Jan 1999)
California rule  (Peter Anderson+, Nov 2001)
Captain drops and others take  (Grafix8888+, Sept 2000)
Chouette cube strategy  (Stanley E. Richards+, Mar 2011)
Cube proxy  (Ilia Guzei+, June 2003)
Dream chouette  (Phil Simborg+, Sept 2009)
Extras  (Daniel Murphy, Feb 1997)
Extras  (Albert Steg, July 1996)
Extras  (Anthony R Wuersch, Mar 1995)
Fish-hunt rules  (Chuck Bower+, Feb 2006)
Interlocking chouette  (wintom+, Jan 2008)
Jacoby rule  (Doug Doub+, Aug 2005)
Legal plays only  (Gregg Cattanach+, Aug 2001)
Los Angeles Rules  (Joe Russell, Apr 2013)
Los Angeles Rules  (Justin N.+, Aug 2011)
Lure of the chouette  (Bob Koca+, July 2004)
Mandatory beaver  (Roland Scheicher+, Mar 2002)
Mandatory beaver  (David Montgomery, Jan 1999)
Money management  (Albert Steg, Sept 1998)
Online chouette rules  (John Graas, July 2003)
Order of succession  (leobueno+, Aug 2011)
Order of succession  (Albert Steg, June 1995)
Procedure when captain doubles  (Bill Riles+, Feb 2010)
Split cube actions  (Neil Kazaross, June 2003)
Strategy  (Michael J. Zehr, Sept 1998)
Variable stakes  (Christopher Yep+, Apr 2000)
Waiting for teammate to double  (Øystein Johansen+, July 2001)
When box takes a partner  (Dan Pelton+, Mar 2009)
When does player retain the box?  (Daniel Murphy, Jan 1997)
When is consulting allowed?  (Dave+, Mar 2000)

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