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"Weaver"

From:   Alan Webb
Address:   vsg-isg@t-online.de
Date:   31 May 2000
Subject:   The "Weaver"
Forum:   rec.games.backgammon
Google:   8h2gqs$res$11$1@news.t-online.com

Paul Lamford in the glossary of his excellent handbook "Improve your Game"
mentioned a term called a "weaver". He describes a weaver as a deliberate
misplay in the hope that an inferior opponent will take his offered cube
next turn.

To be used with caution me thinks :-)

regards
Alan

Douglas Zare  writes:

I was introduced to a "Weaver Coup" by an opponent on Yahoo, who was trying
to blitz me but ran out of ammo. She had used her 8 and the spares on her 6
to make her 1, 2, and 3 points. I had made no real forward progress, and
entered one of two checkers to her 4 when she doubled, and I took. She
laughingly explained that a Weaver Coup was when one is too good to double,
but has lost a lot of equity on the last exchange; one can double and get a
take. The joke was on her, though; since I was trailing -3:-6 Snowie 3
thought my take (and later aggressive double) was correct. Then again, so
was her double.

Douglas Zare

Genghis  writes:

The origin of the "weaver" is as follows:

Paul Weaver was known for wanting to double opponents in therefore he
sometimes would not double in a position where his opponent had a clear
pass. Instead he would play on until the opponent had a clear take to
double. The "Weaver" was a derisive term for the games which he blew by
doubling the opponent in causing him to LOSE points rather than winning a
sure point.

Charles Russell  writes:

As I've been told, the term "Weaver" is not attributable to Paul, but
rather to Tom Weaver.  Further, the idea is not necessarily to wait for
a double-in opportunity, but to craftily anticipate a decrease in equity
such that, though still a technical pass, the opponent may be tricked
into taking (this has deep implications especially for late bearoff
positions at difficult match scores).  Proper Weavering would never
involve losing a point: one must cash as soon as any market-*regaining*
sequences are threatened.

Or so I've been told.

John Maley  writes:

Charles Russell is absolutely correct. This particular tactic comes from
Tom Weaver, and not Paul.  It's rarely used these days, but against a
weaker opponent can come in handy from time to time.  The misplay need not
be a blunder type move, but perhaps the 2nd. or 3rd. best move.  The goal
is to get your opponent to accept the cube.
 
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