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Rolling the dice

From:   Julius Selbach
Address:   juliusselbach@hotmail.com
Date:   22 July 2005
Subject:   Rolling the dice
Forum:   rec.games.backgammon
Google:   1122033526.870604.201990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

When rolling the dice, are you allowed to set up the dice in your hand
showing the same dots on each dice so that you begin the throw with a
double and then more or less drop them on the board?  My oponent got the
same number, a double 1, which he set up in his hand when he dropped the
dice.

I just want to know if this is allowed. I would have lost the game if I
had not told my oponent that I think that is cheating or manipulating
the outcome of the throw.

Thanks for your time!

Regards,
Julius

Tom Keith  writes:

For what it's worth, I think if you drop two dice together straight
down from a reasonable height, you will get very random rolls.
(In other words, I think your opponent was lucky and had no real
advantage beyond a psychological one.)

But that's really beside the point.  It's more fun for everyone if
players do their best to throw the dice so that their opponent can
see the outcome is random.  Backgammon is a hard enough game without
having to figure out if somebody might be cheating.

The US Backgammon Tournament rules say: "A legal roll consists of
shaking the dice vigorously in a dice cup and then simultaneously
tossing them out at a discernible height above the playing surface,
allowing them to bounce and roll freely."  (If you don't have a dice
cup, any small plastic cup will do.)

Tom
 
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