Forum Archive : Puzzles

All-time worst roll

From:   Michael J. Zehr
Address:   tada@mit.edu
Date:   18 January 1998
Subject:   Re: follow-up question
Forum:   rec.games.backgammon
Google:   69rsch$7d4@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU

> Many thanks to Kit Woolsey for the "all-time great roll," the position
> and roll giving the largest gain in equity. I initially asked only
> about equity changes (not realizing that more possibilities exist for
> large gains than large losses). I still remain curious about the
> mirror situation, the all-time disaster roll that leads to the largest
> equity loss. Any suggestions?

      24  23  22  21  20  19      18  17  16  15  14  13
     |     O   X   X   X   X |   | O   O   X   X   X   X |
     |         X   X   X   X |   |                 X   X |
     |                       |   |                       |
     |                       |   |                       |
     |                       |   |                       |
     |                       |BAR|                       |
     |                       |   |                       |
     |                       |   |                       |
     |                       |   |                       |
     | O   O   O   O   O   O |   |                       |
     | O   O   O   O   O   O |   |                     X |
       1   2   3   4   5   6       7   8   9  10  11  12

According to JF 7, O's equity before rolling is 1.508.  After rolling a
44, X's equity is 1.226, for a swing of 2.734 on one roll. Not sure this
is best, but it's a big swing.

-michael j zehr
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