Forum Archive : Probability and Statistics

Distribution of points per game From:   Stig Eide Address:   stig.eide@avh.unit.no Date:   12 September 1995 Subject:   1000 Jellyfishgames Forum:   rec.games.backgammon Google:   433l0p$r27@due.unit.no I asked Jellyfish to play 1000 moneygames at level 5 (both sides, using the 'Finnish game' command) and recorded the results. This is the distribution of points per game: 1 point: 35.4% 2 points: 40.7% 4 points: 20.3% 6 points: 0.6% 8 points: 2.5% 16 points: 0.5% Sum : 100.0% (Average points per game: 2.296) (Sample Variance : 8.334) The Jacoby rule was not in use, but the effect in ppp is small. (It'll only affect those games where the equity swings from less than .5 to greater than 1 in one sequence, making the average ppp smaller). An example of how this information can be used: If you've played n games in a chouette with P others, then you can be 96% sure that your winnings was due to skill, and not luck if you won more than 5*sqr(nP) points. (The Central Limit Theorem is used. n should be more than 12). Thanks for reading. Stig Eide, stig.eide@avh.unit.no Kit Woolsey  writes: The most interesting result of this trial to me is that the % of 1 point games was 35.4%. This means that Jellyfish thinks that with proper play, 64.6% of initial cubes should be taken. I have always believed this -- in fact, I think the proper figure might even be higher. However, in a survey of over 1000 matches (most of which were played in the 1980's, most involving at least one world-class player), the percent of initial doubles taken was only 40%. I only looked at match scores where the score figured to be irrelevant to initial cube action -- i.e. both players had several points to go. I wonder who is doing the right thing -- jellyfish, or these players. Kit   Did you find the information in this article useful?           Do you have any comments you'd like to add?

 

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