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Does Backgammon NJ cheat?

From:   Greg
Address:   webwiz1234@gmail.com
Date:   20 June 2010
Subject:   Does Backgammon NJ cheat?
Forum:   BGOnline

I must have played 5,000 games. I am ahead of the hardest level by 73%. But
I have been noticing that its much harder for me to enter from the bar,
than the computer. That sets a huge frustration. I have decided to write
down how many rolls I need to enter if slots 1, 2 and 3 places are open vs
the computer. Here what I got after playing 100 of games. Here are the
amount rolls to enter if computer has one place open:
6,4,7,5,5,11,7,3,2,1,3,5,4. The computer rolls to enter in my home.
4,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,2,1.

Here are the amount rolls to enter if computer has 2 places are open:
4,3,4,2,4,3,3,1,1,2,4. The computer rolls to enter in my home if 2 places
are open: 1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1. I will not show about the 3 places
open, because its the similar picture.

The conclusion that the computer is not that intelligent, because he makes
up for entering the board much easier. The reason must be because he play
TOO aggressive game. But what is amazing I am still ahead of the computer
brain.

NJ  writes:

I'm 100% positive that you didn't count this accurately. I think I need to
put in a feature that keeps track of this because humans are not reliable
enough to keep accurate statistics. For example, I'm guessing that if you
got off the bar and then got hit the next turn, you might have counted that
as not coming off the bar. Also, how did you handle having 2 pieces on the
bar as opposed to 1?

Backgammon NJ includes extensive features that advanced users can use to
show the game isn't cheating. There is a way to see the dice rolls up to
10000 rolls in advance, and the random number generator is even open
sourced. So you can tell the computer isn't cheating by changing the dice
on you. You can also tell that the computer isn't cheating by looking at
upcoming dice rolls because you can show that it always makes the same
moves for the same position/score (when playing on Expert level at full
strength -- on lower levels it has some randomness to it).
 
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