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Adjusting to face-to-face play
> Is there an element to the live game that is missing when
> playing on-line?
Yes, the need for fast pip-counting, an essential part of the live game
that is usually performed automatically online. Given the importance
of pip-counting, and given that etiquette requires fast play, it is
very possible that an online expert could be quite weak at live play.
Peter Schneider writes:
I'd second that from my own experience. Other differences that come to
-- Possibility of cheating (in casual money play)
-- Playing when you don't feel like it (in tournaments)
-- Staying focused in a distracting environment
-- Controlling (or using) the stronger emotions of real life
-- Dealing with annoying opponents face to face
-- With very little real life experience perhaps even the
different appearance, geometry and handling of a large board.
I'd expect an expert online player with no RL experience to perform no
better than intermediate dring his first nights over the board.
-- the simple mechanics of rolling, moving, picking up dice, keeping
score, using the clock if any.
-- the opportunity to learn a lot from playing and discussing the game
with players with faces, as Mr. Backgammon mentioned.
-- someone may notice if you haven't showered lately.
-- the pleasure of meeting interesting, mostly pleasant, often quirky
characters who share your love of the game.
Real Live Backgammon--come for the games, stay for the friends!
And the beer!
Chris Ternel writes:
Live play, and in particular chouette, is a great forum for learning,
as the possibility for discussion and exchange of knowledge is in
real-time. Assuming that the other players are knowledgeable.
Ken Bronstein writes:
I play lots of BG online, and rarely play anyone face to face.
I was doing well in a Vegas tournament years ago, and then lost a
semi-final match when my opponent made an illegal play (perhaps
unintentional) and it turned a critical game around because I
did not see and call out his misplay (an observer pointed it out
to me later). I am sure I missed the incorrect play because when
I play online a person cannot make an illegal move and I am not
trained to watch my opponent closely. I learned a lesson, and I
will never forget it.
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